repost cause i think it went un noticed and took aagges haha :) guess i cant upload my pics i need to re-size them but dont have pshop or anyhting?!1 anyway, im doing a spade review soon (hahaaa) and stumbled upon these: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000Y8X8RA/sr=8-2/qid=1262044436/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1262044436&sr=8-2&seller= http://www.toolbank.com/p/C3481/FAIOSWEST yup. its those sick french packing spades that are sickkk, also found longhandle flat head packer like usaaa ones but il let you search for them :) sickk well i just ordered one, should save my back aloott. round or square lips?! awnsers in boxo chattio booya xxx